Wednesday, September 12, 2007

Vocational feelings

After reading the Rose selection how do you feel about vocational students being treated as having special needs? Do you feel that students that have been written off have huge unrealized potential? Rose comments about students "floating on a shallow pond." This seems to indicate that teachers do not know how to engage vocational students minds. School is organized as a hierarchy with a lot of emphasis and effort placed on the upper level classes. Do you think that teachers lack of motivation is partially to blame for vocational students being far behind other students? Will this way of teaching set a person up for a failure in the real world?

7 comments:

UffDa28 said...

I think that students in the vocational center should be treated just like the other students. The only difference is that they learn at a different pace. I don't beleive they should be written off for any reason. Those students do not have any less potential than any other student in the school. Also, if a teacher works with a student, they wouldn't be so far behind the other students. The reason they are behind is because the teachers did just "write them off." The students don't deserve that. They deserve the same education as everyone else. I don't believe that the way of teaching will set a person up for failure. I believe that a person decides whether or not they want to fail. You can overcome the circumstances you were handed.

NegativeCreep said...

i see it as a vicious cycle students who are in vocational classes that should by all rights be treated like anybody else aren't. Teachers who probably wanted to work with students in a more advanced class may feel a lack of motivation to teach when they have to seemingly "waste" their time on kids they had no intention to teach which does set a person up for failure in the future. How can one be motivated to learn and do better in class if all their teachers could seem to care less about them they in turn dont care and so on and so fourth it does change things for people

ValenOK said...

Vocational students often have the same potential as the students in the standard, college-prep curriculum, yet it is most often their own failure to utilize their skills that leads to the catastrophic number of students that end up doing menial jobs or committing crime. Teachers blame students for their laziness, and students, in turn, blame teachers for abandoning all hope for their students. However, I think that they both are partially at fault and to place blame on only one of them means to ignore the other side of the story. For example, teachers should never quit on their students when they feel that there is nothing they can do to help them and should, in fact, increase their efforts in setting them on the path to a better life and success. Students, in turn, should never behave in a way that interferes with the teaching and focus instead on furthering their own educational goals. They should realize that they are that not going to school for the teachers or for anybody else but for themselves and for the sake of their own future. If they do not try to achieve the best they can, there is little that can be done to help them. Education is not only about the knowledge, it is also about learning how to realize your true potential and determining what you want to do with your life, and all students, including those with the vocational curriculum, should recognize that.

jello said...

I feel that vocational students don't get an equal share in education. They are people who need help the most, and they arn't getting it. There could be a lot of students taht have been written off that have a lot of unrealized potential, but we will never know because no one is giving them an equal share in education. I feel that teachers at voactional school's should step up and help those kids who really need it most.

DrummerStud1379 said...

I think all students should be treated equally. Sometimes I feel it is hard for teachers to see the potential and qualities that students have. It would help if they had a better sense for that. Everyone deserves an education. I think some teachers write students off because some students are lazy and are not willing to learn. I think teachers should be a little more persistant with these types of individuals.

Hot Tamale said...

No matter what the situation is I think all students should get treated equally. There are some that are a little bit advance than others, but you also have to take in consideration that there are some who are trying to get to that level, they all just need that little push. Thats why teachers need to care more than to care more on how much they are getting paid. Do what you love and love what you do.

outspoken1 said...

I believe that most kids are written off at a early age based on where they live. Better educational opportunities are given in wealthier neighborhoods and poorer areas are left with teachers who for the most part don't care about the childs educational needs. So by the time most of these kids make it to high school they are sort of handicaped, because they haven't taught the proper material in order to test highly on placement exams